Thread: Contemporty electronic Trance music spiritual exspiriences

Hello

Almine has spoken of the pros and cons of heavy metal I am wondering if she could speak about electronic trance/Dance music not the kind that is played at warehouse Raves but the Psychedelic trance genere that originated in israel and india and is played at outdoor festivals this genere uses synthesised sounds of the same organic/magical kind that ephrimvael designed for the sound elixirs, particulalry like the the rolling bass of Pleiades blue moon of mansarat and the bass line of klanavik I & II although I is quite a high ned bass line compared to contempory dance/trance which uses a 4/4 drum beat at around 136 - 145 bpm (beats per minute) the melody synths from all the elixirs of the star races and Klanavic are typical sounds used in psy trance aswell.

I hav had many exspiriences when I used to use drugs many years back and when I sttoped using drugs aswell whilst on the dancefloor at festivals which elevated me via the trance enducing effect of the music abouve the collective psychic fileds of the other people at these partys, although someone once noticed what I was doing and recognise that I was enhancing the environment, they aproached me afterwards to showed thier gratitude...It was through these exspiriences that I became aware of my own divinity, even though some of the music can be dark and twisted sounding I was able to not be effected by the conotation of the vibe even whilst not using drugs. This leads me to supose there is a place that we can get to where no music of any kind will ever effect us at any time...even if its BPM is out of sync with the earth..for instance the law of resonance says that a stronger amplitude frequency will eventually entrain any weaker frequencys into its own field thus resonance...It seams to me that a master should be able to cause the same effect or at least remain in thier center regardless of the vibrations around them.

LPG
Ryan

Thank you, Ryan- can you please edit your post and try to focus more on what the question is that you want Almine to answer. The examples of her own sound elixirs are a good reference.

Blessings,

Jan

Ok..1. I am wondering what the effect of 136 - 145 beats per minute contempory dance/trance music of the kind that uses psychedelic/organic mystical synth sounds akin to that of the ound elixirs by comparison to heavy metal as it has been stated heavy metal can be beneficial in small doses, if that is the case then what of this genere of trance music.

2. I used to wright alot of this music but I stoped when I started to listen to the elixirs and I have only been wrighting ambient/chill out and I am wondering is it life enhancing for me to continue creating such music I cant tell if I am stifling my passion for it becaus I belive it may be "bad" or if it really isnt life enhancing, bear in mind I will be retuning my old pieces to the solfeggio if it seams that this creative exspression still has place in the grace of the one life

LPG
RYan

Thank you, Ryan - a much better job than I could have done!

Jan

It appears that this question sliped through the cracks too. I would really like to know the answer to this one as it is a facet of my passion, do I leave many of my creative exspressions behind never to be heard by others or not?. If need be I will ask it in the november coarse however almine said that she would answer all the questions posted before the 21st

Dearest Ryan,
Almine did her best to answer all the questions that were given to her and one of my questions had slipped thru the cracks as well which was the pigman question. I can see this as it wasn't meant to be answered and maybe your question was answered and you didn't hear it. I would say if your creative expressions bring you joy...continue, it is your expression of your joy and passion. For me, some of the techno beats disturb me...some thrive on it. Almine has a song in her 18 sound elixirs that has a sorta techno beat but much more mellow...I love those elixirs. I would listen to them and go with your passion and put out your expressions as there may be others that feel the same as you. While listening to the elixirs, feel if this resonates with what you are expressing. Does it feel blissful, can you see the colors, taste the notes, hear your heart beat to the music? You will know your answer!
As for Pigman....he must be an unsolved mystery and moving on!
Blessings Ryan,
Nancy

Hello Nancy

thanks, I am gratefull for this coarse it did as many have already said exceed expectations. All the answers Almine answered were done so, spectaularly. It's Just dificult to know my own feelings on the subject when I have created multiple belife patterns around this particular style of music to the point that wrighting to it puts me off centre via the second guessing of its validity, before I started to wonder about it being beneficial or not I never felt that way when I would exspress myself through that style, I dont like to produce dark techno/trance I like the mystical/melodic vibe....so I was hoping Almine could provide an answer.

All questions were submitted including those you ask about here, Ryan and Nancy. It appears that some questions did fall through the cracks, in spite of my best efforts and those of Almine. Thanks Nancy for providing support!

I am still sending out personal and some general questions that were among those not answered. I know that Almine has combined some questions of similar topic/general interest. Example: if she has explained to one student how to use the Poetry of Dreaming or the interpretation of the language of pain to figure out why their leg/hips have pain, she felt it would be better to answer a totally different question rather than repeat the same information. If she told about the use of Yoga, Kaanish Belvaspata and Qi Vesta as the best tools to promote balance and clearing illusion, she may not have answered a question that was similar and that would have had this same answer.

I know how much it means to have your question answered and we have done our best to ensure that. Be aware that some had many questions answered but were still not happy that every single one was not answered. Almine did say that she would answer all questions, meaning students could ask whatever they wanted to, not that each student could submit an endless list of questions. Some took it to mean that they could submit pages of questions and each separate question has 4 or 5 parts; and then they are not happy that every single one was not answered. This is not realistic.

Don't equate the fact that your question may have been 'overlooked' as a sign that you are overlooked. We know that these situations can also be timing devices and in some particular questions/answers Almine has told people that it is something they must answer for themselves.

Your patience and giving the benefit of the doubt is appreciated. We will have a better system in place on the next course (Dec.) where questions can be submitted.

Please understand that Almine not only answers questions on a tuition course but on urgent emails from students, on the QV forum, Twitter and Facebook.

Thank you!

Jan

Thank you Jan for that explaination..
I had felt that about the questions and understood that perhaps Pigman was for me to get and that is why it wasn't answered. I put no expectations on the answers or even getting any. Most times, Almine answers them without me asking them on the forum. I set on this course to gain insights from Almine and that I got with every question. I do remember Almine talking about one of Ryan's questions and her sound elixirs and perhaps in her making of these sound elixirs being they came thru her, she may not be able to give Ryan specifics about timing or beats or frequencies on his level of his making music. His seems to be a more technical level of questioning and different aspects of music where Almine was letting it flow thru her creating the music.
Perhaps Ryan, you could talk to Emphrimeal who helped Almine from the technical standpoint in the more hands on creating the elixirs which his awesome equipment and technology he used. Maybe he would be the better one to comment on these technical terms of music, beats and how he worked with them balancing the white and black light frequencies.
Yes Jan....I had no expectations and was not at all disappointed in her not answering some questions as I already felt like she was in the beginning of the course, answering the same questions over and over, so I am glad you regrouped and made it more all-encompassing as to not focus so much on the details and be more fluid in the information that came thru...I usually have to listen a couple times just to embody all she talks about and 'hear' the answer....lots of layers of information to process.
Thanks for all your hard work and I am so grateful for having the experience.
Blessings,
Nancy

Hi Nancy

Jan acctualy gave me a lil technical info via Almine a few months ago, rgarding klanavics tempo being the earths heart beat, and some other stuff regarding the pitfalls of binaural beats. I was moreso interested in Almine descerning weather it was a life enhancing choice for me to continue to make trance music..I have pondered it and realised that I do still enjoy wrighting it but its no longer first priority, I now enjoy wrighting down tempo chill out and breaks as well as meditative sound scapes alot more..Just now though I have realised that the track luminouse and beutifull by Ephrimvael and Almine is roughly the same tempo as psy trance so I guess that question is sort of answered.

Blessings

P.S. I may suply a link to some of my Ellixir Inspired music some time if anyone is curiouse. I do seem to channel alot of my music on the spot.